I have to agree with this. Pretty much everything I needed was in the 700s and matched the old "analog/basic" channel numbers too so it was easy to remember 8/708 for example. Now... CBS is 8/1209? ABC 10/1200? NBC 7/1203? Everything is indeed now scattered around and it is going to be harder to remember 3 and 4 digit numbers, especially when they don't tie up with the "basic" numbers... Why on earth aren't the highly used channels in the 100s say, with NBC 107, CBS108 and ABC 110 for example? The only saving grace I guess is that they are mapping the old basic numbers, but that's the last thing they should do if they really want to get people into the new sections/numbers because we're all going to resort to the short ones.lschwabe said:now it's scattered all over the place...I wish TWC hadn't made this illogical change
Yep, that 1200 series is a complete illogical disaster and I've set all my recordings to the lower 100. The problem I'm having is Tivo has all the premium channels wrong and I'm probably going to lose some programming. I realize that's on the Tivo people but it wouldn't be a problem if TWC hadn't made these unnecessary illogical changes.kevinc said:I have to agree with this. Pretty much everything I needed was in the 700s and matched the old "analog/basic" channel numbers too so it was easy to remember 8/708 for example. Now... CBS is 8/1209? ABC 10/1200? NBC 7/1203?lschwabe said:now it's scattered all over the place...I wish TWC hadn't made this illogical change
If I want to record copy protected channels to PC in SD I use the composite output from a Roku 2XS with the TWC TV app. (For non copy protected I use a ClearQAM tuner input on the PC of course.) The TWC app gives very high quality/HD video and the composite output on the 2XS enables me to record it as a good anamorphic widescreen composite SD image - i.e. full screen height with no black bars - to my PC's analog capture card. That gives much better results than when I used to record SD from the composite out of a TWC DVR, which used to be non-anamorphic and so gave me black bars top and bottom for widescreen and thus very poor overall video quality. Of course a Hauppage PVR with component inputs is the best way to record copy protected channels from a TWC box but I gave the last of mine back when I went 100% cablecard.DRB said:Also is there anyway with an HD box to temporarily override and get the SD version of a channel instead of the default HD version when desired? Sometimes I prefer the SD version of some channels if I am recording it to my computer thru an analog video capture card.
http://www.tivo.com/lineup.htmllschwabe said:Yep, that 1200 series is a complete illogical disaster and I've set all my recordings to the lower 100. The problem I'm having is Tivo has all the premium channels wrong and I'm probably going to lose some programming. I realize that's on the Tivo people but it wouldn't be a problem if TWC hadn't made these unnecessary illogical changes.kevinc said:I have to agree with this. Pretty much everything I needed was in the 700s and matched the old "analog/basic" channel numbers too so it was easy to remember 8/708 for example. Now... CBS is 8/1209? ABC 10/1200? NBC 7/1203?lschwabe said:now it's scattered all over the place...I wish TWC hadn't made this illogical change
Thank you! They really should be aware of since it's their job.Admin65 said:http://www.tivo.com/lineup.html
Here is a feedback form, so you can tell Tivo that TWC has changed their lineup.
I have a Tivo and live in North County and we haven't had the channel change yet. I did some looking around and I found this entry in the Tivo help forums:lschwabe said:I submitted my online lineup complaint to Tivo and it said response would be 5-7 days. Tivo is a great service, much better that TWC DVR service, but watch out for the customer service. It looks like I'll be on the phone for awhile.
Likewise. However, I use the Ceton My Media Center App to control Media Center recordings etc. from iPhone and from Windows 8 PC and there is at least one minor quirk with the lineup: If I set it to record channel ABC/KGTV by setting channel 1200 rather than 10 Ceton MMC converts this to channel 1241, which is in fact not channel 10 but one of the KGTV sub-channels. This does not happen when I set it directly in Media Center. I'm not sure where the bug is in this but luckily the other channels I use regularly seem to map correctly and now I know about this one. Anyway, if you're using Ceton MMC apps I'd recommend checking it's mapping to the right channels you use before relying on it.Admin65 said:My Media center machine had no problems with the new lineup... I also get the HD feeds by default.
If you set the box only to 480i, you get the SD versions. You can always change that back.DRB said:The new lineup is indeed illogically layed out.
Also is there anyway with an HD box to temporarily override and get the SD version of a channel instead of the default HD version when desired?
Sometimes I prefer the SD version of some channels if I am recording it to my computer thru an analog video capture card.
I couldn't agree more. I like the way the TWC TV apps (Roku, iPhone etc) have the channels in alphabetical order. A more radical rethink of the interface would be an excellent idea.DRB said:I think a better channel layout, or at least a guide option would be to order all the channels in alphabetical order and also have a quick channel name keyboard search option within the guide.
The numbers are nearly irrelavant now if the guide is used anyway.